Sunday, April 05, 2020

Shake, Rattle, and Roll

I've been meaning to write something for quite awhile now, but the Covid-19 pandemic has wreaked havoc on all of us. I'm going to dispense with my usual blather about how badly the financial markets have done during this unbelievable moment in history. The bottom line is that the bottom just dropped out of the market and all of us who are invested directly, or indirectly have suffered losses (some real, some maybe recoverable) that are going to have an impact on our lifestyles and standard of living for sometime to come.

Since my traveling plans have been completely disrupted for the remainder of the year, I've had the opportunity to correspond with a fair number of PERS members and retirees. There are two questions that come up in one form or another in every one of these emails. For non-retirees, the common question is "should I get out now?". For retirees, "...can they reduce my benefit after I've retired?" There are no simple answers to either question, although the second one has a legal answer that is current today. So, let's get to the second question first. Two Oregon Supreme Court decisions since the beginning of the new century prevail on the answer to this question. Both the Strunk et al case (2005), and the Moro et al case (2015) have provided clear guidance that benefits of retirees cannot be reduced retroactively. In other words, once you've retired and are receiving a benefit, there is nothing permissible that PERS or the Legislature can do to reduce your present or future benefit beyond what was in force at the time of your retirement. So, at first glance, it appears that there is nothing that can be done to adversely impair benefits of those already retired. That drives the first question, and is the reason why people are asking whether it is time to jump ship.

The two questions turn out to be interlinked in curious ways. For people still in the system and not retired, the fear is that the Legislature and/or PERS could make changes that would affect benefits before individuals retire. That Governor Brown is planning to call a special session of the Oregon Legislature to address the fallout of the Covid-19 pandemic on the state's economy has people justifiably worried. My first, and foremost, piece of advice to people on the cusp of retirement is to pay close attention to the news of such special session. Special Sessions are not that common, usually deal with items that can be managed in a one or two day session, and whose agenda depends on bills drafted before the session and upon which agreement among the participants has largely been sorted out before the session begins. Under those circumstances, I can say reasonably confidently that PERS is just too complex for a Special Session to deal with. Experience has taught Legislators that PERS bills hastily drafted have unintended consequences and legal barriers that often prevent them from being implemented, or force them to be unwound. While I would never say that action on PERS was impossible during a special session, I do regard it as a low yield action with a high probability of expensive litigation. As I've advised others, watch for the Special Session agenda and if you see PERS on it, then it is time to bail if you can. If it isn't on the agenda, it doesn't mean it won't appear from nowhere, but that is unlikely. So that leaves a second, much more critical question hanging out there. On the assumption that nothing happens during a special session, what then?

The massive elephant in the room is the 2021 Legislature, which convenes in late January or early February and runs until the early part of July. These are the sessions in which all of the major changes to PERS have taken place. By the time of the 2021 Legislature, we should have a pretty good idea of how much financial disruption Covid-19 has caused in Oregon, in the US, and worldwide. We might also have some idea of how well or poorly the PERS Fund has weathered everything that has happened. The PERS chaos reported in the news is based on incomplete information and hearsay at this point. PERS doesn't track the S&P or the Russell 5000. It tries, but the de-risking strategy of the past few years by the Oregon Investment Council, has lowered both the alpha and beta of the fund, resulting in it trailing some of the major indices, but also being less volatile. PERS holds a lot of financial instruments in Alternative equities which don't get priced daily, weekly, or even monthly. Some are priced quarterly, some semi-annually. Common sense says that PERS has not done much better than many other pension funds during this volatile 2+ months of chaos. Nevertheless, with all that as background, I would still expect the 2021 Legislature to roll out bills targeting PERS and certainly trying to reduce benefits for members not yet retired. It is hard to predict what these bills might be, but whatever they are, expect litigation. So, for those people verging on retirement and can do so in 2020 (by November 30, 2020), if the Special Session produces nothing, I'd want to be gone by the end of November 2020. I wouldn't want to still be in the system unretired before the Legislature convenes in 2021. That is tempting fate more than I'd be willing to tempt.

Finally, the $64 billion dollar question. Could the Legislature enact changes to benefits already being paid? While they would be advised in the strongest possible terms not to go there, they might still go there. The Supreme Court has ruled, and this would be illegal you say. Well, the answer to that question is "maybe". Yes, two previous courts have ruled that this can't be done, and is an impairment of the PERS contract. The 2015, 2017, and 2019 Legislatures chose not to go near anything that would affect benefits of the already retired. Things may be different now, and the Legislature may decide that the "third time is the charm." The point of me saying this is that while Supreme Courts, in particular, like to adhere to the principle of stare decisis (upholding previous court decisions), it isn't a mandate or requirement to do so. Consequently, a future court could choose a different legal path and permit something previous courts have found impermissible.

I don't write this to worry people as I still think it unlikely; however, I also am realistic enough to know that what is unlikely isn't necessarily impossible. The US Supreme Court is a classic example of how previous court decisions can be overturned by future courts.

I am not predicting anything here. I'm also not offering much in the way of advice to people because events of today have upended a great deal of what we thought may have been the case three months ago. I have neither comfort to offer those on the cusp of retirement, nor reassurance to offer to those of us already retired. We've entered another dimension of time and space where all bets seem to be off, and we are at the mercy of Covid-19 and forces outside our control.

46 comments:

Gas said...

Maybe PERS is 10 more Billion in the hole!

Stinek said...

I hope everyone is staying safe during this time!

lk said...

I am of course concerned that PERS will reduce benefits for members who are retiring soon.

Margaret said...

Curious to know what you think the major challenges are likely to be for PERS members (both retired and not retired) in the very different financial climate going forward. Worst case scenario?

mrfearless47 said...

One of the reasons I've not filled out this post is because I'm still trying to get a feel for what is going on besides what is obvious. Thus it is hard to speculate about future changes, if any, to PERS. I am virtually certain that the Board will reduce the assumed rate by a significant amount for next year, even though it is out-of-their-normal sequence. How low? Not a clue. Worst case scenario would be an attempt by the legislature to reduce benefits of current retirees. Realize that two major Supreme Court rulings have made clear that this isn't a legal mechanism the Legislature can use. However, having said that, it is important to remember that the Court's composition has changed dramatically since Strunk in 2005, and Moro is 2015. The legal precept of stare decisis normally governs most Supreme Court rulings, but it is a very strong suggestion, not a legal requirement. In different circumstances, there is nothing to stop a future court from issuing a different ruling that would permit benefits to be changed retroactively or prospectively. I think there would be a strong legal fight - and a very ugly one at that - were the Legislature to attempt that again. The only advice I can offer at this point is to say - ELECTIONS MATTER. Pay attention to who you vote for.

KD said...

One thing to bear in mind - the funds held for PERS members (retired or not) are a bunch of "little funds" not one great big fund. By that I mean that each employer has an account that is designed to pay the retirement benefits for its current and former employees. Currently, Oregon laws do not permit most municipalities to declare Chapter 9 (municipal) bankruptcy - but those state laws could change. If there are entities out there that are so significantly and financially impaired that they simply cannot go on, they well might seek law changes to obtain bankruptcy relief. With that in mind, I'd like to suggest one more level of research for folks deciding whether (or not) to retire - look up the financial condition of your particular employer. If it's really, really bad, continuing to work might not be a bad option. Hopefully it never comes to this, but who could have seen what's happening now even a month ago. "Just saying . . ."

Oregon Dan said...

Why get out by the end of November? Why not Dec 31st (which is my current plan)?

mrfearless47 said...

Oregon Dan. That puts your retirement into 2021, which has been too close to the Legislatures start. There is probably no issue with that date, but too many changes that the PERS Board can make involve an effective date of Jan 1. Just trying to be extra cautious.

Margaret said...

KD,
That's an important point. So, if a municipality did go bankrupt could their PERS fund balance be used for anything other than paying current retirees?

mrfearless47 said...

Margaret: since it is currently not possible for an Oregon municipality to go bankrupt, it is hard to assess how such Chapter 9 bankruptcies would affect retirees in a municipality declaring Chapter 9 if it were approved by the Oregon Legislature. Chapter 9 is both a Federal and a State issue, and I don't know how Oregon law comports with Federal law under any declaration of bankruptcy.

Boomer said...

Of course if they do reduce benefits retroactively, we all want to know what percentage that might be. I realize no one has any idea of that now. I am also wondering if they will go after SS retirees. Different politicians, same agenda.

mrfearless47 said...

Just remember my admonition. ELECTIONS MATTER. Know your friends, know your enemies and hopefully they aren't the same people.

Dave Dahlin said...

KD’s comments re UAL’s varying from employer to employer is very true and something to pay attention to. Please look at the attached “Summary of Pension Unfunded Accrued Liability (UAL) as of December 31, 2017” to see how funded or unfunded your employer is. I think it is unlikely all employers will honor their pensions.

Marc, you are probably correct that the Governor/Legislature will try to limit pensions for both existing employees and current retirees. I think even more likely than new legislation is a continuation of a longer smoothing or cap on what employers must pay. This was the major savings for employers coming out of the 2019 legislative. Why not do it again? There isn’t an effective legal challenge to the employers or PERS for doing this that I can think of. At some future point employers (starting out with the poorest funded) will not have enough money to honor their obligations. How that will end, I do not know. However, I am pretty sure no court is going to force citizens to raise taxes or shut down major services (think Medicaid or Schools) to pay public employees their pensions.

There is a good article in today’s New York Times we public pensions. I have attached a link to the article below.

https://www.oregon.gov/pers/Documents/Financials/Pension-Summary-UAL.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/business/dealbook/coronavirus-public-pension.html


Margaret said...

Dave D,
Very helpful link for the UAL's. I note that the UAL for my employer is 156% of payroll. That does not sound good..

mrfearless47 said...

Margaret. You can only measure the UAL as a % of payroll by comparing it to other employers and their UAL's. If you have a big employer, 156% of payroll could be large, but compared to a smaller employer with fewer employees and fewer resources, 156% might be catastrophic. Look around at other comparable employers and see where they are. Remember that the UAL is amortized over a 22 year period, which reduces the percentage due each year by 1/22 theoretically.

Owen said...

Hi Marc, thank you for sharing your thoughts. My thought is that there is zero chance that PERS retirees will not get a reduction in benefits. None, zero, nada.
I am hoping though, that they show some compassion to folks who get the average payment which, if my memory is correct, is around $2000 a month. I hope that these folks only see a 10% cut in bennies. I think those who get higher amounts will be cut by higher and higher percentages. Possibly the retired football coach and others will see their 50K+ per month cut down to 5 grand.
I do not want to see my benefits cut. But, they are going to be cut. If the legislature does not cut them, societal chaos will ensue. How could any lawmaker not cut PERS, when leaving it intact means many fewer police officers, firefighters, judges, clerks, teachers etc etc etc.
Those of you who don't think the legislature will make cuts to PERS, even to those already fully retired and currently receiving benefits are not seeing that we are, for all effects and purposes, at the beginning of another great depression. Society will not tolerate a select few retired public sector workers getting public funds at the expense of society.
My two cents. I know you are going to say that there aren't enough of the high earners, who if they got a 90% cut in payments to make enough of a difference to the public funding issues we have. This is true. And that is why every PERS recipient is going to get a pay cut.

mrfearless47 said...

Owen. Thanks for your comments. Just remember that whatever changes the legislature make, they have to pass the crucible of the Supreme Court. The reason I brought this to people’s attention is that the courts are reluctant to undermine a previous court (or in this case, four different Supreme Courts in Oregon - 1991, 1996, 2005, 2013) when contracts are involved. My point was that courts are not bound by those decisions, but they have a pretty strong incentive to not go against them. I would not bet against the Legislature attempting to cut benefits in some way, but I don’t have a good feel for how the Supreme Court might judge the Legislature’s actions.

Frank said...

I would like to know what PERS employer Owen retired from. His bio says he is a potter. He seems more like someone who is upset he is not a PERS retiree.

mrfearless47 said...

I can assure you Owen is a PERS retiree. I know him personally.

David C said...

If there are cuts to current retirees, I believe it will be in the form of inflation, money printing...etc. they can legally get away with that. That is at the federal level and that is much easier for the local politicians.

mrfearless47 said...

If it is of any comfort to people, my experience should help people understand what is going on in the global markets. From the top of the market in early February, to the absolute bottom in late-March, our aggregate portfolios lost slightly more than 25% of their net value. However, since hitting bottom near the end of the first fiscal quarter, our investments have recovered more than half of what they lost. We are down about 12% from the high we saw less than two months ago. We've made no notable changes to our portfolio (none to those we manage ourselves), and some made by our financial manager to my wife's retirement portfolio that caused her investments to bounce back a bit better.

Owen said...

HI Marc, thanks for your earlier reply to my comment. Your response is, I think, correct in the context of *normal* times. In a *normal* recession, the supreme court probably would not allow any changes to take place with the PERS benefits.

These are not normal times. I doubt very much that we will be out of the woods economically until towards the end of 2021 at the earliest. At the earliest. We are at least 16-17 months away from a vaccine, that is what the experts are telling us. Until then, we are at the mercy of covid-19 and the sensibilities of both our elected leaders as well as our fellow citizens in trying to survive through the crisis.

So, what happens during the next 16-17 months while we pray for a needle? Stock market will likely plunge further. Much further. Similar to the 1929 crash - as you know, after the initial crash, stocks came back, but then they really plunged again. History rhymes, and it appears we are rhyming pretty good with 1929 right now. So many folks out of work right now, (no medical insurance, what could possible go wrong), imagine if it is still the same case or worse a year from now. Since the well being of the PERS fund is wholly dependent on a healthy stock market, when the stock market cannot provide the revenues the fund needs to pay retirees, where is that shortfall going to be made up? I can make two guesses. One, it will not be covered by a tax increase. Two, it will be a cut in PERS benefits.

Honestly I don't think it will take a year before cuts to PERS are made. I see a bigger chunk of pain coming into the stock market before the end of the year. I know I sound like a doomer. I don't want to sound that way. But, I see what I see, and I see that the writing on the wall. Believe me, I hope I am wrong.

Thanks for your blog, much appreciated!

Owen said...

Frank, ha you made me laugh. In all likelihood my benefits will be cut same as yours. Well maybe not same as yours, my benefits are very small, certainly not enough to live on. Any cut will really hurt my budget big time. Which sucks. But it is what it is. These are tough times. Nobody should be presuming anything about anyone else right now and treating them as an enemy based on one comment made on a public blog. Lighten up man! Cheers to you!

mrfearless47 said...

Well. The impact of all of this won’t show up in any budget until the 23-25 biennium. PERS is only valued in odd numbered years and those valuations are the basis for employer contributions. The 2019 valuation is in process now, and its results will determine the 21-23 employer contribution rates that take effect on July 1, 2021. Moreover, the estimates for first quarter 2020 show PERS losing only 7.8% compared to the S&P and Russell losing 20+%. So, while I don’t disagree that the Legislature will try for retroactive cuts in 2021, and PERS will implement them as required, the final decision won’t occur before the start of the 2023 Legislative session in the year the employer rates will reflect earnings (positive and negative) for the period 1/1/20-12/31/21. There are so many variables and schedules in play that I am not willing to hazard a guess about what the future of PERS holds for anyone. I expect a rate cut - that is a foregone conclusion, but I don’t know when it will take place. Lots of things, good, bad, and just plain ugly can happen in the next 18 months.

Unknown said...

What are the legal issues around the PERS board making an off-year AER cut in July? And could that possibly be put into effect immediately? I am planning to retire on 9/1 with the current AER intact, hopefully before any cuts could happen.

mrfearless47 said...

I don’t know what the legal implications are, but the practical ones are monumental. The idea of changing the assumed earnings rate off-schedule itself is daunting enough, but changing it willy-nilly in the middle of a PERS calendar year is insane. The actuaries are just finishing up the system valuation for 2019, which will inform employer contributions for 2021-23 biennium with the current 7.2% rate built in. Even changing the assumption for January 2021 (instead of 2022, which would be normal), would pose intriguing challenges as the employer rate would have to rise between Legislative sessions. It is a change that would not surprise me, but implementing it wouldn’t be trivial.

Oregon Dan said...

Headline at foxnews and drudge right now where McConnell is saying states should be able to declare bankruptcy. If you read the article he seems to be pushing that pretty hard. I'm starting to think nothing will be off limits in the age of covid. Thoughts? If this happens is everyone hosed or do retirees still get paid?

mrfearless47 said...

I have no idea what the concept of a state declaring bankruptcy would look like, since there is no precedent. The bar would still have to be pretty high. Moreover, the state is only one entity making up PERS. It administers the system for 833 different public employers, so there would probably years of litigation. That said, Covid has pretty much done in almost everything we thought we knew.

Bluezdancer said...

I think McConnell has a heavy lift ahead of him to get state bankruptcy
legislated....and I doubt even if it were available that states would knee jerk jump at the opportunity. There would be heavy hits to a state's credit rating if it were known that a state wouldn't honor its debts....as well as years of litigation at the state and federal level...

Andrew said...

Ted Sickinger addressed the bankruptcy question last year:

"[I]t wouldn’t be PERS declaring bankruptcy, but public employers that are members of the system – schools, municipalities, state agencies – if they were unable to afford the required contributions levied by PERS.

Municipalities in other states have filed for bankruptcy protection to renegotiate obligations with creditors, including public employee pensions. After filing for bankruptcy in 2012, the City of Stockton, Calif., for example, was allowed by a federal bankruptcy judge to reduce existing pensions, thought it ultimately chose to reduce compensation for new employees and eliminate unfunded health benefits and leave existing pensions intact. The City of Detroit, meanwhile, filed for bankruptcy in 2013 and ultimately reduced retirees’ pensions by 4.5 percent and eliminated cost-of-living increases.

'Having said that, municipalities or municipal corporations – including school districts - are only allowed to file bankruptcy if that authority is granted under state law. And here’s the thing: Oregon statutes do not include a provision for state or municipal bankruptcy. Only drainage and irrigation districts are allowed to file for bankruptcy protection under Oregon law.

So bottom line, this is not going to happen in Oregon."

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/02/pers-q-a-cant-oregons-troubled-pension-system-just-file-for-bankruptcy.html

lk said...

I decided to retire to avoid more anxiety.
Unfortunate that health care costs will increase $10k more per year for me, even with Medicare.
The pandemic is making it obvious that health coverage should not be contingent on employment, and this situation exacerbates inequality.
LK

Kris said...

Ok with all the variables I have no idea when to retire now. I have just under 29 years right now and 4 years military. I am planning on moving to a state with no income tax Texas most likely or maybe Washington. I was thinking about working another five years or so but I figure that the big ax is coming to PERS and feel that getting out soon is a good idea. Any advice?

lk said...

I retired May 1. If you are thinking of retiring earlier than you may have wanted to, be sure to take into consideration possible increased health care costs in detail. I also found that retiring in the pandemic probably added to the anxiety and uncertainty, but I. I think if you are being forced to retire early, either by bullying from your Dept. Head, or by the pandemic, it is not a fun experience if you are unsure if you will have enough money to cover expenses. Information is helpful to make decisions (at least a few of us think so), so try to make a realistic budget and see if you can afford to retire. I worked as long as I could, several years longer than most of my colleagues, because I didn't have an adequate salary. I have lived through several PERS downturns to the assumed rate, and my feeling in April was that I just couldn't stand waiting for the axe to fall on PERS once again. As a retiree, PERS members are safer than the unretired, at least at this point, so I took the leap into retirement.
LK

OswegoCanal said...

Advice has been given loud and clear, abandon ship .

mrfearless47 said...

Please don't take my comments as "abandon ship". Each person's situation is different, and, for some, retirement is the best option. However, that doesn't mean that you won't come into trouble after the Legislature convenes in late January 2021. I still would remain surprised if some bills aren't introduced that propose to cut benefits of those already retired. However, having said that, if our own portfolios are guides, we've recovered about 85% of what we lost from the peak to trough. I don't fully understand the psychology of the stock market, but am happy to be where we are. Overall, since the beginning of January, we've lost less than 7% of our total portfolio, and the way things are going these days, expect to gain much of it back before year's end. The stock market isn't the economy, nor is it a proxy for the economy. PERS may end up far better off than the total economy by year's end. Hope springs eternal.

Befuddled said...

Marc, what kind of changes can the PERS board make in December, such that they would go into effect January 1? They made a slight change to the actuarial tables last year, but do they have any other levers they might pull? BTW, YTD numbers as of today suggest that at least as of now, S&P is down 9% for the year, the broad bond index I checked is up 4.6% for the year. If this holds up (which is not certain!), this will be a bad but not catastrophic year. Also, what is the earliest that a bill on PERS could reasonably be expected to hit the governor's desk in 2021? Thanks!

mrfearless47 said...

The Board has the legal and statutory responsibility to change the Assumed Rate and the actuarial tables. They could make those changes at any meeting between now and December. However, it is unlikely they would do so for reasons mentioned in previous comments. Given the way the Legislature works, I don’t see any way for a bill to make it to the Governor’s desk before the end of April, or early May. Both of those dates would be extraordinary, but not impossible.

Befuddled said...

What a huge exercise in personal financial risk management, which of course is greatly complicated by its intensely political dimension. Thank you very much for your insights and depth of knowledge on this thoroughly complex topic!

arbucklec said...

I would also like to thank Marc for this amazing blog. Both myself and my wife were inactive members looking for information and insight on when we might want to submit our applications for benefits. We are now both "retired" and have no regrets on our decision. We could not have made an informed decision without the information from this blog. I recently hit the "donate" button sent a few dollars to help keep this going. I strongly urge others to do the same.

mrfearless47 said...

Thank you your comments and for your donation. Both are greatly appreciated, and I’m glad I was able toinform your decision.

Petra said...

Regarding your earlier comment: "Just remember my admonition. ELECTIONS MATTER. Know your friends, know your enemies and hopefully they aren't the same people."
Is there a place to easily see the candidates' positions on PERS 'reform"? Thank you!

mrfearless47 said...

@Petra. This is a tricky question. In general if you are involved in an election involving an Incumbent, it should be easy to see the record on PERS by looking back at their votes on significant legislation (e.g. SB 1049 in 2019). Just because an R voted against the Legislation, it may mean only that they thought SB 1049 wasn't severe enough. I have found few R friends, but a surprising number of D enemies. One of the most significant races statewide is for Secretary of State. This office, while seemingly an innocuous office, is actually the Lieutenant Governor position in disguise. If you doubt that, ask how Kate Brown became Governor. The SOS position is often an stepping stone to the Governor's mansion, either directly, or when the Gov is termed out. So, you might want to think longer term about the SOS election than 2020. Think 2022 when Brown is termed out. I think if you look at the endorsements in the voter's pamphlet, you'll have your answer about who to support. Legislative positions require more thought, but if a D is running as an incumbent, the most significant thing is whether he/she is unopposed, and, regardless, who endorses. There is a lot of information buried in the endorsements.

OswegoCanal said...

Oswego Canal, I also wanted to retire dec 1 2020, is that foolish. I can move back to Nov. 1 if u believe it’s safer.

mrfearless47 said...

Dec 1 is a safe date. Earlier is fine, but you have to make your last day of work no later than Nov 30 to have an effective retirement date of Dec 1.

Miz Lottie said...

If there are changes to be made to PERS for future retirees in 2021, wouldn't they have to have a phase-in date before those changes take effect? Or can the changes be implemented immediately. I know someone who is Tier 1, 38 years of service, who wanted to wait 2 years to retire, because of not wanting to have to pay for healthcare benefits. Thanks for clarifying.

mrfearless47 said...

There is no legal requirement for the Legislature to offer “phase in” of benefit changes. They can declare an Emergency, which they’ve done in the past, and make the changes effective on the day the Governor signs the bill. I seriously wouldn’t count on getting any more notice than the fact that a bill is under consideration. It is theoretically possible for a change to PERS to lake effect as early as late April, 2021, maybe earlier if all the stars align.